What Do I Need To Bring

[LogiK]

Ok well im 11 and going to register around the 10th-14th of JAnuary...
What exactly do I need to bring email me a list at doggy.impfusion@gmail.com
Or add me on msn at the same address... I am also interested in helping set up...

Thank You
Cameron

[BR3TT]

Hello Doggy,

Best bet mate is to speak to one of our friendly admin team members.

ads0r@ccgl.org

:)

[SilverShaft]

I think you need a computer im not sure





</sarcasm>

[osic]

Is there any chance of making a little list of things here so 100 people dont have to ask the same question. Thanks

[Domo-Kun]

1. Computer + monitor
2. games and whatever else you want
3. power board
4. network cables

I would also recommend bringing your backup disks, such as your XP disks and your driver disks, just in case

[James]

Originally posted by Domo-Kun@Dec 27 2004, 12:25 AM
I would also recommend bringing your backup disks, such as your XP disks and your driver disks, just in case
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very important


since its a three-day LAN, if you have a problem that needs to be fixed, best to have these and spend two hours fixing up your pc, rather than putting up with chunder or not being able to play at all.

[LogiK]

Well this is my list

Computer
Monitor
Power Cables
Network Cable(Only one I have is about 10m)
Rubber Bands for Network Cable
Mouse
Keyboard
Mouse Pad
HeadPhones
Food/or Money for Food
Windows XP Disc
MotherBoard disc... (Sound and graphics, ethernet all built in... eeeepppp.... The first thing im upgrading is the graphics card then the ram)

[LogiK]

Btw do I need to bring the discs for the games...

[Icefire]

If your running CD cracks on your legitimate games then no, otherwise you will need them to launch the game.

:)

[James]

still, it's a good idea to bring them in case you need to reinstall, because of a patch coming out etc....

Better to be safe than sorry!

[bugsy]

As said before, if you run into any trouble at the event just talk to an admin or just ask one of the lanners!

[LogiK]

Yeah Matt I will ring you if I need any help and when I get to phatLan

[Robbo]

well dont forget a sleeping bag or similar :P a tent if u want lol. dont wanna get cold.
bring coke or buy it for a dolla.
socks < Keep feet warm
headfones < PPL always forget that
Pwr Cables < A person a Lan always forgets that
Extra Keyboard < incase wireless bats run out < Bring More Bats
Extra Mouse < Incase wireless mouse runs out < Bring More Bats < Incase U run outa extra bats
PC < ENtiraty
Yourself < U dont want someone to have ur stuff eg HDD (I Bet MR2 wouldnt mind and extra few)
Smokes < If u do smoke or just bludge one off 40 ppl who do
Pillow < Somthink For U TO Bite :P Ull understand
Moeny :P
I think That Covers the list + Reasons

[KaneH]

theres nothing wrong with onboard lan :)

[LogiK]

... Until you lose the drivers and your on a network :mellow: :o :D

[KaneH]

yeh iv been 2 CCGL since #11 and its neva happend :)

[bugsy]

neway, save generic will usually always work failing that SOMEONE will have the drivers on their system

[osic]

So bringing unbacked up important info on your HDD is not a good idea. I dont have anything I realy need, I format every 3 months or so anyway.

[Dezza Bot]

Originally posted by osic@Dec 27 2004, 06:10 PM
So bringing unbacked up important info on your HDD is not a good idea. I dont have anything I realy need, I format every 3 months or so anyway.
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Having important unbacked up info is not a good idea. If its important it should already be backed up, lan or not.

[KrE8oR69]

umm just wondering about how much space we get between the people next to us. cause ive done lans before but first time at CCGL and i run dual monitors. so what would be to situation on that kleave one at home or what :P

thankx

[Kaygo]

Well your entry money gives you 2 power points, one lan connections, one chair and one space at a table. If setup goes as normal and we get ample tables then it should be 2 people per table, enough room for your monitor, keyboard, mouse room etc. It is encouraged that your case go on the floor under your table to free up space.

I would highly doubt we are going to have room for people to be setting up dual monitors, this aint iMax :P

[DrSp3d]

last ccgl brainless, blot0 and myself setup our pcs on the floor, we found that we had a tops area to play with, plenty of room for our kb, mouse and monitor. also had room for other things such as personal items and food.


I strongly suggest to people that you setup on the floor. there is no difference when it comes to whether your pc is on the desk or floor, xcept that you are not pissing the person next to you off coz they are continually battling for space with your pc.


please put pcs on teh floor


kta, S2 xL

[MaJ]

xL, the reason for ppl doing this is they want to show off their 1337 PC's.

As you & I already know we are 1337, we put it on the fl00r.

I mean seriously, we must be 1337 to be 0wning in CS at 4:30am.

...plz tell me im 1337.

[Mlloyd60]

I am going to be bringing a DC Server, Can i have an extra IP Address for it if not a Gig port.

[ViLLaN]

Please see -
http://www.ccgl.org/invision/index.php?showtopic=4784

Should answer your questions, except for whether you have access to a gig port or not.

[Duckslayer]

Originally posted by MaJ@Dec 30 2004, 08:40 AM
...plz tell me im 1337.
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MaJ your so 1337 that whenever your in the same room as me my 1337 level drops, you lil sucubus you

[KrE8oR69]

Originally posted by Duckslayer@Dec 30 2004, 12:09 PM
you lil sucubus you
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HAHAHAHA!!!! go ol south park..
sorry to be a pain bu still wondering on waht the space issue is gonna be like. im guessing no but jsut wanna be sure :P

thankx

[vessian]

Originally posted by Robbo@Dec 27 2004, 12:39 PM
well dont forget a sleeping bag or similar :P a tent if u want lol. dont wanna get cold.
bring coke or buy it for a dolla.
socks < Keep feet warm
headfones < PPL always forget that
Pwr Cables < A person a Lan always forgets that
Extra Keyboard < incase wireless bats run out < Bring More Bats
Extra Mouse < Incase wireless mouse runs out < Bring More Bats < Incase U run outa extra bats
PC < ENtiraty
Yourself < U dont want someone to have ur stuff eg HDD (I Bet MR2 wouldnt mind and extra few)
Smokes < If u do smoke or just bludge one off 40 ppl who do
Pillow < Somthink For U TO Bite :P Ull understand
Moeny :P
I think That Covers the list + Reasons
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tent? im just gonna sleep where i fall. :rolleyes:

BTW. Kre.... like your sig :D

[DrSp3d]

Originally posted by MaJ@Dec 30 2004, 09:40 AM
xL, the reason for ppl doing this is they want to show off their 1337 PC's.

As you & I already know we are 1337, we put it on the fl00r.

I mean seriously, we must be 1337 to be 0wning in CS at 4:30am.

...plz tell me im 1337.
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maj = 1337

maj = uber1337

and owning at cs at 4:30am, we are both 1337

[bugsy]

1337 - it just seems to have lost its meaning nowadays...

[DrSp3d]

only when it is reference to certain people.

maj = 1337 and it retains its meaning....

[mouse]

What you need to do:

Update or patch your computer before coming.

Install a decent virus scanner, and update it before coming

Get a longish network cable, 5m+ is a good idea

Headphones, no speakers allowed

A firewall only if you are paranoid (note: this means that some games will have problems)

Mousemat is handy (everyone forgets)

Sleeping bag

Download "direct connect" and direct connect plus plus(dc++), and bcdc or something similar. Most lanners use this program for shaing files such as game patches and home movies.

DEODERANT - this is a lanning MUST!!!!!!

If you have problems with any of this there are people that can help, for instance, kittie has a magic cd of patching. Www. downloads.com is a good place to download virus scanners and firewalls that are shareware/freeware. I'll have a few extra network cables at the lan if your in trouble.

[AlCaTrAzz]

Hire Intelligence Newcastle / Central Coast will be providing a limited supply of gaming mousepads at phat lan... assuming i hear from turri...


www.it-hire.com.au

[DrSp3d]

Originally posted by cowstaker+Jan 2 2005, 09:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cowstaker @ Jan 2 2005, 09:18 AM)</div>A firewall only if you are paranoid (note: this means that some games will have problems)

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This is a requirement for access to the network. No Firewall, No Access.

<!--QuoteBegin-cowstaker@Jan 2 2005, 09:18 AM
Download "direct connect" and direct connect plus plus(dc++), and bcdc or something similar. Most lanners use this program for shaing files such as game patches and home movies.

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No Need. All patches and any files needed for playing games will be hosted on the CCGL server.

People are not allowed to run their own DC servers.


Any questions about it email a CCGL admin or Jason@ccgl.org

[Domo-Kun]

why the hell do you want people to run firewalls, all the do is interfer and be completely annoying

[moochie]

Turri says so, thats why we do

[moochie]

AND TURRI IS GOD!

[Domo-Kun]

yes, i understand that there has to be some form of order, but the more dictorial you become the less fun it will be

[moochie]

You will have fun wen turri says you can!

[DrSp3d]

Originally posted by Domo-Kun@Jan 3 2005, 03:06 PM
yes, i understand that there has to be some form of order, but the more dictorial you become the less fun it will be
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where you at ... CCGL #23 i think it was.

Ask an admin why we run personal firewalls... It's a condition, like it or lump it...

[Duckslayer]

The reason why is that @ ccgl #24 we had a bad problem with virus send out sheet thru the network via svhost. by having a firewall it stop anyone with the virus from sending out the - which was crippling the network and thus stuffing every1 up. It was that bad that when we tested at 2pm one person with the virus made play colin mcrae 4 impossible.

[Domo-Kun]

hey i was also wondering what sort of chatting software will we be able to run, are you guys gonna host a IRC server or somesuch?

[linux_inside v2]

the direct connect software has an irc style chat system

[Domo-Kun]

yes i know this

[Kaygo]

Originally posted by xL@Jan 3 2005, 09:18 AM
This is a requirement for access to the network. No Firewall, No Access.
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Just so you guys know, this is not the case. We are not forcing anyone to use a firewall. You will be required however to run antivirus, and anyone found to be infected with a virus will be removed from the network until the virus is removed.

A firewall how ever is a good idea, and we do recommend that you run one. As Duckslayer said, we have had lans in the past where firewalls have made the difference between our network staying up or going down.

[Domo-Kun]

well i'm gonna be formatting the night before :) so i know i'll not have a virus :)

[Kaygo]

If you're formatting make sure you do a full Windows update before coming.. Otherwise you more than likely will get a virus.

[Domo-Kun]

will do :)

[DrSp3d]

Originally posted by Kaygo@Jan 3 2005, 06:11 PM
Just so you guys know, this is not the case. We are not forcing anyone to use a firewall. You will be required however to run antivirus, and anyone found to be infected with a virus will be removed from the network until the virus is removed.

A firewall how ever is a good idea, and we do recommend that you run one. As Duckslayer said, we have had lans in the past where firewalls have made the difference between our network staying up or going down.
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when did this rule change ????

[RavenKittie]

Unfortunately there never was a firewall rule.

It was only AV software that was a necessity

[ViLLaN]

As much as everyone having a firewall on there machine would benefit the LAN, its not something I can see being enforced. While AV is passive and doesnt require a great deal of computer knowledge to administer and keep updated.. Firewall software is quite different.

[Robbo]

well lets just leave it as AV requirement but FW is choice. Although as we all know it will and can stop DCOM problems like we had at #24 and block any other type.

And a format cleans it up but what happens when u install somethink that contains a virus in it. Defeats the purpose. FULL scan of HDD with latest virus updates does teh trick everytime.

[DrSp3d]

Originally posted by Robbo@Jan 4 2005, 02:41 AM
well lets just leave it as AV requirement but FW is choice. Although as we all know it will and can stop DCOM problems like we had at #24 and block any other type.
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/me shakes fist at turri


meh, k im cool with that...

and Domo-Kun, in respect to the chat status, you have legs and obviously a mouth, so get up and go talk to people face to face.

kta

S2 xL

[ViLLaN]

A little birdy told me that there may be a server setup for chatting at the lan.. Shhh... :P

[Domo-Kun]

yeah xL but theres gonna be 500 people, chatting software allows for large discussions

[BR3TT]

IRC/MSN @ A Lan is good in some ways, bad for others.

All we did @ NGL was talk on irc/msn.. And we were sitting within 30cm of eachother.

But it is good, as the point made by Domo Kun, to chat with large amounts of people at one time.

E.g setting up a game of cs.

[Robbo]

But why would we wanna set up a game of CS when supposeabbly going to be plenty of pubs there ? Although i see ur point if we want to play el 1337o Source.

[RavenKittie]

Robbo I think he means for when co-ordinating CS / CSS Wars. 5vs5. A Lan as big as this is going to be a great place for teams who may not do so well in the CS Comp to at least get some prac up against the best of the best ;)


ie.

/amsg GOT 5 AND SERVER PM FOR WAR

[AlCaTrAzz]

as for the arguement that a firewall is hard to run, thats just bullsh!7 i hate to say... there are many very easy to run firewall's out there such as ZoneAlarm or even Kerio which require very little knoledge (just run em in learning mode , they still stop all the big problems but will let apps through)...


i think it might be time to start pointing ppl towards the guides in the technical thread... and as always if people want help or advice on setting up any sort of antivirus or firewalls, please feel free to PM or MSN me as i am only too happy to help.

[PC_Modware]

i could always bring my irc box and every one could connect locally,

[BR3TT]

Originally posted by Robbo+Jan 4 2005, 10:34 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robbo @ Jan 4 2005, 10:34 AM)</div>But why would we wanna set up a game of CS when supposeabbly going to be plenty of pubs there ? Although i see ur point if we want to play el 1337o Source.
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Robbo, you missed:


<!--QuoteBegin-Brett@Jan 4 2005 9:45 AM
E.g setting up a game of cs.
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[ViLLaN]

Originally posted by AlCaTrAzz@Jan 4 2005, 06:07 AM
as for the arguement that a firewall is hard to run, thats just bullsh!7 i hate to say... there are many very easy to run firewall's out there such as ZoneAlarm or even Kerio which require very little knoledge (just run em in learning mode , they still stop all the big problems but will let apps through)...
i think it might be time to start pointing ppl towards the guides in the technical thread... and as always if people want help or advice on setting up any sort of antivirus or firewalls, please feel free to PM or MSN me as i am only too happy to help.
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Alc.. I do firewall support for a living, I know and have used just about every firewall out there, and for you and I (and the majority of the people on these forums) they are easy to run.. That isnt to be said for everyone.

I would personally love to see everyone running a personal firewall on there machines (I have even gone as far as to organise 100+ copies of NIS to be available for people at Phat lan).. But the admins have enough on there plate without troubleshooting firewall installation / issues as well. Ill be distributing software with the understanding that I offer no warranty or support, your on your own.

[osic]

NIS being Norton Internet Sercurity? I just got that today, Yay!! Im a little knew to computer safety, just formated due to >3000 infected files that I couldnt remove, either could Norton 2003.

[Robbo]

I personally Like Agnitium Outpost 2.5 Eazy as to set up and plugins that are bloody fun to use when ur bro is looking up pr0n and u can content filter it. Starts chuckin a fit lol.

Thanks for the Kittie :)

Just use DC to talk so much simpler and not as many windows open.

[Robbo]

NIS aint that good and a bit annoying try somethink w/ better features :P

[ViLLaN]

What other features should they be looking for? It might help people looking for firewall software to know what NIS is missing before they purchase it (the copies I will be giving out at the LAN are free).

[Robbo]

but is it purchased ?

[ViLLaN]

Let me reword that...

If NIS is missing features that you think are important. Would you like to list the features that people should be looking for in a firewall in case anyone is looking to purchase one.

[mouse]

It may have changed but:

Firewalls in their default configuration stop battlefield/desert combat from working. It may be the same for a lot of other games or it may not. If you are paranoid a firewall is a good thing. It will make it safer but not as much fun. I will NOT be running one for the record, but i will have 2 installed ;)

The ccgl game patch server, well ummmm, i have never been able to connect to the ftp server. NEVER. I have been trying at every ccgl i go to. Set up anonymous access. Better yet, make it a samba/windows share instead of ftp. Until that day, LONG LIVE DIRECT CONNECT. If you want us to use it, you have to make it easy not esoteric. Direct connect is easy, bite the bullet and install it.

Oh, for the record, i'm using NIS as one of mine (it came free with my mobo).

[James]

I find that the windows firewall with SP2 is a good compromise between security and ease of use... It's so rediculously easy to set up for games it's not funny.

[osic]

NIS 2005 does block BF1942, HL2, counter strike:source, everything even Firefox. You just need to click that allways allow button and it never askes you again and Ive had no problems sence then.

[mouse]

Originally posted by ViLLaN@Jan 5 2005, 10:10 AM
Let me reword that...

If NIS is missing features that you think are important. Would you like to list the features that people should be looking for in a firewall in case anyone is looking to purchase one.
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An intuitive easy to use method of port forwarding. Also the selective option to block either or outbound and inbound traffic, narrowed down to a port. Plus the option to block an excess of traffic as in spi to the ports you have selectively opened.

What i want is an advanced tab, whereby i can say, okay, allow all outbound, or allow all inbound, or be selective and choose some ports to accept connections both directions, and or block connections, in either direction for any port.

When NIS has all this i'll happily pay for it. Until then i will not complain about the free version of nis i have.......

[Kaygo]

The ftp that was setup for the last ccgl used annon access... I also tested it before giving back the box to turri.

I've been told (seeing as i wasnt at the last ccgl) that the ftp no longer worked when the box was plugged in at the event and a different ftp server was used so i have no idea what server software/settings were put in place.

maybe i should just make a web based one, cant make it any more simple for you noob's :P

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Kaygo@Jan 7 2005, 08:29 PM
The ftp that was setup for the last ccgl used annon access... I also tested it before giving back the box to turri.

I've been told (seeing as i wasnt at the last ccgl) that the ftp no longer worked when the box was plugged in at the event and a different ftp server was used so i have no idea what server software/settings were put in place.

maybe i should just make a web based one, cant make it any more simple for you noob's :P
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I use Serv-U for my FTP server(s) at lans. Always seems to work fine. Shouldn't really be that hard for anyone to access an FTP (even for new lanners). Use SmartFTP (best free FTP client around), put the server details in, and w00t, your in...

More efficient than Direct Connect, but then, just that slightly bit more complicatied and time consuming...Oh well...

[AlCaTrAzz]

i think the problem is alot of lanners were trying to use iexplore which is - at FTP

[Locutus]

Originally posted by AlCaTrAzz@Jan 7 2005, 08:43 PM
i think the problem is alot of lanners were trying to use iexplore which is - at FTP
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Well, that is a problem, using a web browser, and IE of all browsers.

Lanners at SGL are usually fine using IE or whatever browser to access my anonymous ftp, athough it is highly recommended by me that they should use an FTP client, really not that hard to get, install, and set up.

Well, there will be 49 hours, to help change the way of the n00bs!

[ViLLaN]

Originally posted by cowstaker@Jan 7 2005, 09:19 AM
An intuitive easy to use method of port forwarding. Also the selective option to block either or outbound and inbound traffic, narrowed down to a port. Plus the option to block an excess of traffic as in spi to the ports you have selectively opened.

What i want is an advanced tab, whereby i can say, okay, allow all outbound, or allow all inbound, or be selective and choose some ports to accept connections both directions, and or block connections, in either direction for any port.

When NIS has all this i'll happily pay for it. Until then i will not complain about the free version of nis i have.......
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For the record, NIS has all these things.. Except for port forwarding.. Why.. Because its NOT a gateway firewall, its a client firewall, why would it have port forwarding?

Oh, and if your having problems setting it up.. Click on the button marked "Program Scan", it will automatically add the right rules for every internet enabled program on the computer. No problems.

[KrE8oR69]

Originally posted by vessian@Dec 30 2004, 03:08 PM
tent? im just gonna sleep where i fall. :rolleyes:

BTW. Kre.... like your sig* :D
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thank you vessian. did it at skool in spare time. planing a better one but have lost my copy of flash. ohh well ill just put it on the todo list :P

And as for the firewall debarckle im running 2 maby 3 just to be sure because A. if there internet accees who know what could happen and B. there is 500 of the most intelligant computer people from australia in one room all connected via LAN. Now im not saying anyone would but im sure that there are people that could. so im being safe :P
for a good firewall i would suggest a trial copy of sygate personal firewall. if not for permanant use then just for the Phatlan cause its good and if you can play CS and use the net then u can use this :P. and for those who love to get technicall zonealarm is quite good i ahve found:P

anyways that my 2 cents :P see u at Phatlan


HEHE i just noticed something quite humorous. my member number is 666 :P hows that for ironic.

[varuna]

The best security is not running superfluous services. Kill everything you dont need (telnet, dcom, messenger, iis, etc) and set the windows firewall to block the ports for netbios, icmp, Kerberos, LDAP, MSDS and all the other 'features' microsoft includes which you dont need at a lan.

Someone will inevitably bring a copy of blaster to the lan or decide to abuse the messenger service. Simply blocking tcp ports 135-139, 445, and 593 will stop the pandemonium completely.

[Smiley]

hmm, i tend not to use software firewalls cause they usually block the games from launching or stuff like that, like xp firewall - thats easy enough to configure if u didnt unistall windows security centre...like me :blink:
Might load up kerio for the lan and get all them rules sorted out :angry:

[Dezza Bot]

You can still config XP firewall without security center installed

Control Panel -> Windows Firewall

[Smiley]

mmm yeh or get teh properties of the network connection - either way.

btw theres 2 new updates for Winxp out this morning, and 1 for 2kpro yesterday.
Ill have all this stuff if needed etc
Will there be this CCGL security cd there, i havent been before and ive heard it mentioned b4, do u have a list of stuff on there for example? and is it free to get?

[AlCaTrAzz]

the CCGL security CD is organised by Kittie, and will be free naturally to use at the lan... i'd be supprised if it wasn't completely updated... but again, doing all your own updates before the lan doesn't hurt at all

again, CCGL takes security very seriously and if anyone has any problems or questions at all please do not hesitate to ask! even if the admins are busy there are other ccglians willing to help...

[RavenKittie]

Yes there will be a copy of the CCGL Security CD there, each table admin will have one. Also it has been copied to the CCGL FTP with other game patches and updates.

And yes it's free!

[DrSp3d]

i wish you were free kitteh ;)