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General Fuct
16-12-2003, 02:37 PM
I've heard many idea being pasted around about this I thought about it and reccommend

Format:
One Round as each team for maybe 15 or 20 mins

Heats - Team Death Match
Semis - Retrival
Final - Search and Destroy
(or all out TDM is thats what everyone wants)

6 on 6

Per Team:
0 Snipers
Unlimited Rifles
2 SMG (Thompson, MP40, PPSH, Sten)
1 Support (MP44, Bren, BAR)

Bunny Hopping -
*1 Warning, Then individual disqualified and team plays on player down.
or
*Kick the player and allow rejoin so his score is minised from team score.

Maps:
Carentan
Brecourt
Dawnville
Palov
(any more?)

Did I miss anything? Post it.

MCUD
16-12-2003, 07:29 PM
fk off pavlov and put in trainyard...

and keep te gametype consistent.. SD or TDM all the way

General Fuct
16-12-2003, 10:24 PM
constant is boring, the alternating game types just gives more variety and tests the skill to use tactics in different situations.
and why do you always like the gay maps mcud? :-P

palov owns allll

MCUD
17-12-2003, 09:38 AM
pavlov just turns to camping in one of a hundred windows.. (remember with 6v6, that's alot of windows with so few people)

and gametype constant as it allows people to only have to plan for one game type.. why have a final in a gametype no-one has even had one match in yet?

and trainyard has great game play.. am i the only one that has any online experience?

JAAS
17-12-2003, 09:56 AM
Sniper riffle is a must; it’s in the game. It’s part of the game. Don’t remove a part of the game just because you don’t like getting shot in the head. Don’t ban the gun; just get better at playing the game. Removing the element that proves you incompetence cannot compensate your lack of in game skill.

Mad Hatter
17-12-2003, 10:31 AM
I agree with JAAS, if you've got skill then you've got the skill to be able to manouver around the snipers.....and if u get shot have a cry, cause i was sniping snipers with a bar, it ain't hard

don't take it out, it makes the game more interesting if even it does suck to get constantly shot by one

btw TDM would suck as a comp, it's just DM except u can't kill certain people, there's no team work in it at all just random chaos

MCUD
17-12-2003, 11:53 AM
i'd say leave snipers if it was possible to limit them.. A team could easily just go all snipers and they'd snap anything the opposition threw at them if they were in a good position.

i don't know if it is even possible to limit the ammount of each weapon is it? You can just pick up weapons anyway so would make it almost useless.

The sniper IS overpowered.. anyone that argues is simply in a minority. Infinity ward KNOWS it is overpowered, and that is why the GA ladder hasn't started yet, they are waiting for the next patch which removes bunny hopping/overpowered sniping.

Mad Hatter
17-12-2003, 01:49 PM
how is it over-powered? it's one shot kill.....as every other sniper in every game, like DoD and stuff

MCUD
17-12-2003, 02:07 PM
it's over powered compared to the other weapons in THIS game..

One shot kill with a scope, compared to 2 shot kill without a scope for the rifles. Plus it has almost the same accuracy as the bolt actions without scoping.

General Fuct
17-12-2003, 02:45 PM
It is possible to limit weapons, my original idea was to have 1 sniper per team but after playing at nll I agree that snipers should be disabled (james idea). One sniper is easy to take out but a whole team, thats just not happening. *side note* I was thinking and allowing one sniper is still flawed...what happens when the sniper dies? He drops his weapon and respawns, someone picks up his old rifle and effectivly now you have two snipers, he does dies again and you have three snipers and so on and so on.

I agree with mcud that the sniper is overpowered, the thing about both this game and medal of honor I asked was "why does putting a scope on a rifles automatically make it louder and more powerful?" lol. I have a feeling the only people whinging here are the people who only use the sniper rifle.

yeah I played online and all the trainyard was the brits spamming hard...
but i surpose with the limits I surgested spam lvl decreases drasticly.

The thing about team deathmatch is not much tactic to it, all it is is deathmatch with some people you can't shoot. Atleast with objectives you can give covering fire and advance with team work to get to a certain place and do a certain thing.

MCUD
18-12-2003, 09:55 AM
Yeah, that's the problem, if they drop weapons someone else picks it up.. and bam.. two snipers.. if it was S&D you wouldn't have that problem.. the thing is does anyone actually know of anyway to limit them?

Sk@r3Kr0w
18-12-2003, 12:37 PM
pavlov, no way, it is te gayest camper whore map. I'm thinkn dawnvile instead :) sniper rifle, should have 1 alloud. Just tell ppl u cant pick up other weapons (unless maybe enemy's as a reward?) try and trust ppl now to pick up other weapons would be good, because then u could have a fair all round game :D

ads0r
18-12-2003, 12:53 PM
Pavlo is a great sniper map

Iv played it twice, once i was a sniper who kept moving and killing, the other i didn't even use the gun, just snuck up on enemies and bashed them with my gun :D

Iv only even known JAAS to use the sniper rifle, takes no skill to use it, they don't know your looking at them all you do it shoot...and camp :P

Its like every game really... snipers are always an overpowerfull gun

Run the comps without it, its not needed if you are guaging the level of skill of teams.

James
18-12-2003, 12:57 PM
Sniper riffle is a must; it’s in the game. It’s part of the game. Don’t remove a part of the game just because you don’t like getting shot in the head. Don’t ban the gun; just get better at playing the game. Removing the element that proves you incompetence cannot compensate your lack of in game skill.

if it was a matter of lack of skill on behalf of the people not wanting the sniper rifle, then it would stay.

But at this current stage the sniper rifle is hugely unbalanced. It does mroe damage than its identical rifle counterparts, is accurate even when you don't have the target in the center of the scope, and is essentially a destroyer of the gameplay that makes CoD fun. If you wish to snipe, use one of the rifles. they work long range too :)

James
18-12-2003, 12:59 PM
oh yeah also, the FG42 will be in the maps, and will not be disabled, so if you know where to find it, you canuse this (scoped) assault rifle if you want.

MCUD
18-12-2003, 01:41 PM
FG42 is fkn awesome gun..

General Fuct
18-12-2003, 05:55 PM
can you limit the amount of fg42's spawned in the map?

MCUD
18-12-2003, 06:14 PM
it's just a single fg42.. that spawns in the same manner as panzerfausts.

General Fuct
18-12-2003, 06:37 PM
No problem here then. I played online a few time and I thought there were a few more then just one.

MCUD
21-12-2003, 08:52 AM
New CoD patch comes out this week, so sniper rifle will be ok now.. so just leave it as

General Fuct
21-12-2003, 10:12 PM
We shall see. Even if its been toned done, one per side... because head shots are SO easy in CoD.

volrathy
09-01-2004, 09:59 AM
I WANT A DAMN CoD comp stop ass clowning around and pull yourselves together ccgl admins cant u see this is a VERY popular addition.

ads0r
09-01-2004, 10:56 AM
How many people where playing it last lan?

Did an unoffical comp take place?

How many people do you estimate where playing it at the last lan?

volrathy
09-01-2004, 11:28 AM
How many people where playing it last lan?

Did an unoffical comp take place?

How many people do you estimate where playing it at the last lan?

There was a steady no stop 10+ people playing it at least 40 people played it over the weekend

-=CAMPIN CARTER=-
15-03-2004, 08:21 PM
yeah the sniper rifle makes the game lame and annoying the . heels that camp on roves and stuff just are annoying what ever happened to the good old spam it up tactic works for me and angers maj,

trainyard is the ultimate spam map so you gotta put it in. but pavlov is cool as well so meh.

Tempus
16-03-2004, 05:33 PM
Camping snipers are the easiest to take.

They take one shot, miss and reveal their position, if you don't shoot them now, sidestep and you'll be sure to miss the second bullet and then take them out.

If you can't get them this time, play CS....

Duckslayer
16-03-2004, 05:49 PM
It is possible to limit weapons, my original idea was to have 1 sniper per team but after playing at nll I agree that snipers should be disabled (james idea).

As JAAS said, play around it, dont get rid of it...... you like realism Fuct, so tell me did the Allied yell out to the German sniper to drop his sniper rifle because it was "tood powerful" and could take out his whole squad?

I think not
Limit it yes, Disable it... no

loopy
16-03-2004, 06:27 PM
I expect you'd think I'd be the last to say sniper rifles shouldn't be in CoD comps. They are practically all-powerful uber weapons. Letting people get some skill in other weapons is a good idea.

Take moi for example, I am now proficient with all of hte guns except two of the sub-machine guns. ME!! Camper-Bitch Himself! Nah, leave snipers out, but leave Pavlov in.

stench
16-03-2004, 07:26 PM
Most of you guys are tucken stupid your playing world war 2 game.

Notice a war game.
Rules of war backen then and still to day.
1. In war their is no tucken rule.
2.If you won't no snipers don't play the game becase you a UN person go off and play with you dolls.
3.The job of the sniper is to camp and take them down, not to throw his Weapon down beacues a baby carn't play the game.
4.The sniper rifle is more powerfull because it's using a bigger Calibre.

MCUD
17-03-2004, 02:56 PM
Yes true, but in world war 2, the army couldn't afford to equip every single person with one.

Tempus
17-03-2004, 04:05 PM
In World War 2, they didn't respawn.

They didn't fight in closed arenas either.

Machine Guns also had limited ammo.

Oh, and by the way, in war, there are rules.

Mad Hatter
17-03-2004, 04:47 PM
Yes true, but in world war 2, the army couldn't afford to equip every single person with one.

so restrict it, how hard is it.......whats the point of putting one in the game in the first place if ppl just bitch and complain and get it removed....it's part of the game, so deal with it, if u can't, then have a cry....i'll be seeing alot of ppl crying next CCGL.....i won't be sniping, but someone will, and ppl will be crying **looks at general fuct**

James
17-03-2004, 04:59 PM
this thread is old and out of date


they fixed the sniper rifle in the 1.2 update....



moderator, close this thread?

Tempus
17-03-2004, 06:21 PM
Hey Hatter your "I wouldn't hit that.... Okay maybe 10 times." was MY quote.

Sif quote steal.

Mad Hatter
17-03-2004, 06:28 PM
if u notice, i says "MaJ" at the end, meaning he said it, so :P to you

BR3TT
17-03-2004, 06:28 PM
moderator, close this thread?

I tried to ages ago, but when I didn't find the padlock button, I realised this thread wasn't in sandbox.

It's out of my duristiction. (speeling?)

MCUD
17-03-2004, 06:35 PM
i wasn't suggesting it's removal, i was just making a counter-point to the war comment

-=CAMPIN CARTER=-
21-03-2004, 08:01 PM
I agree with james close this thread LOUST

loopy
22-03-2004, 07:45 AM
I reckon there could be a slight solution...
Have one person in each team (optional) be able to put:
(SS) after their clan tag... stands for squad sniper, trained to use sniper rifles, and as such, the only one allowed to pick (and pick up sniper rifles).

Since you can check that the person who killed you has an (SS) in their name you know if they are "allowed" to use a sniper rifle.

Penalties can apply for other people picking up the sniper rifle...

Thats it, besides this....

Bags being SquadSniper for Phobos :wink: :P