View Full Version : Gigabit LANNAGE !
LogiK
19-12-2005, 01:05 PM
Hey guys,
There is a little lan up north (Gloucester) that is going to run an xmas special all gigabit Lan.
There is a restriction on 40 player only due to the fact that theres not that many halls that big up there.
If you are interested let us know so we can confirm it'll go ahead.
Thanks heaps.
EDIT:
http://www.midacmedia.com/InterShop21/pics/glo-vic_0a.jpg
This pic helps alot to show where it is.
Dezza Bot
19-12-2005, 01:51 PM
fair ways to go.
contact details, dates, times, and costs would obviously be helpful, but as you've said its only in the planning stages as of now.
Not even sure what I'll be doing with my 2 weeks holiday this year
LogiK
19-12-2005, 02:13 PM
Its definately going to be on.
It will most likely be 3pm 15 Jan 2006 - Noon 17 Jan 2006.
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69 Hours Lannage.
I am a basic admin at this lan (Comps and Tourny.)
You could call me if you want Dezza but thats the only info I could give you.
It'll either be 15 or 20 bucks entry.
LogiK,
AlCaTrAzz
20-12-2005, 09:41 AM
leeching or gaming lan?
all gigabit screams leechers to me
tho the LANs switches may be gigabit, you are still limited by the fact that most NIC's these days are still 10/100.
Gloucestor is not that far either, my parents make regular trips there to see friends.
Infact I believe they are lookin at houses up there on monday.
linux_inside v2
20-12-2005, 11:12 AM
not to mention that if you run gigabit between more than 1 switch you are gonna enjoy the bottleneck, if you have 2 switches, 20 users on each and a gigabit link between the 2 you would only be able to pull a maximum of 1 gigabit total from one switch to the other, so once everyone starts downloading you have 1gb divided by 20 which would work out to be around 50mbit per pc, and then that is assuming that it is one way, if both switches are accessing each other you would be lucky to peak at 25mbit
Dezza Bot
20-12-2005, 11:57 AM
How is that different from ccgl linux? 1gb link back to rest of ccgl / 24 users = about 40mbit. Not nagging or anything, just making a point.
Oh and to Maj I'm not sure what rock you've been hiding under, but I've been using onboard and pci-x gigabit nics for years. transfer 100mb in 1second mmmm....
mine is too dezza. yes i am aware that most ship with gb now.
but go to ccgl & have a look at the amount of ppl with 10/100 cards
Dezza Bot
20-12-2005, 12:31 PM
True on the ccglers part. This isnt about ccgl. I still feel that the network setup at ccgl is fine/great
PHOENIX_12
20-12-2005, 01:21 PM
yer wtf is wrong with ccgl network, but meh screw goin to Gloucester i'll just wait a bit for the next central coast lan
linux_inside v2
20-12-2005, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Dezza Bot@Dec 20 2005, 11:57 AM
How is that different from ccgl linux? 1gb link back to rest of ccgl / 24 users = about 40mbit.* Not nagging or anything, just making a point.
Oh and to Maj I'm not sure what rock you've been hiding under, but I've been using onboard and pci-x gigabit nics for years.* transfer 100mb in 1second mmmm....
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1gbit link to the Master switch, then to each seperate switch which splits up the gigabit to the seperate users, the master switch is doing most of the job and without it things would be very slowwww. plus the ccgl switches are managed switches which afaik would have QoS to split the bandwidth up at any given moment fairly. but i could be very wrong since i didn't set it up or have anything to do with it.
think about what it would be like with 10/100 backbone links
point being, the backbone MUST be faster than what the end users receive, it is the same way it works for service providers.
P.S: Gigabit won't make your games run better over lan :P
Dezza Bot
20-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Guess I didnt explain that well... since you just said the same thing as I was at least thinking ;)
Icefire
20-12-2005, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by AlCaTrAzz@Dec 20 2005, 09:41 AM
all gigabit screams leechers to me
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Quoted for accuracy
Gloucester sounds a bit far especially for a LAN where 12 year olds are admins... No offence
Robbo
20-12-2005, 03:11 PM
With all you guys talking about bottlenecks ... gigabit switchs are still good , managed even better , and connections between users on single switchs are increased.
Yes gigabit is a L******s heavan , it does speed the process of space left down , then making people to revert to gaming. (Just one way to look at it)
Gaming connections .... dont need more that 150 kb tranfer rate to play with good speed. (another thing to look at)
LogiK
20-12-2005, 03:18 PM
The network is running of a full 48 port gigabit switch. There is comps as I am helping organise them. Who says a LAN has to be perfect ? There a three admins 19, 16, 15 and I am an admin for this lan only.
Its not that far really. Navillus is dedicated to get there :P.
He is catching the train with his pc, monitor, a backpack and his bike, he is riding from gloucester train station rofl.
Gl Navillus.
There should be registration up soon for it.
I must have missed the bit in the title saying "Gigabit . Fight Thread. Spam Away"
DrSp3d
20-12-2005, 05:24 PM
Yeah i was just thinking that max...
Guys, u either want to go or you dont... dont start a debate on the pros and cons of a GiG lan here... ktabi
BR3TT
20-12-2005, 09:54 PM
Bulahdelah is famous cause I drank 2 cokes there.
Man, by the time u go from Tuggerah to Bulahdelah you feel like crying.. So -_-
I'm probably missing this LAN due to the lazyness factor. lol
LogiK
20-12-2005, 10:52 PM
BR3TT, You might be able to get a ride with some other ccglers that think its a waste of time and take one or two cars or something.
Dezza Bot
21-12-2005, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by BR3TT@Dec 20 2005, 09:54 PM
Bulahdelah is famous cause I drank 2 cokes there.94372
I ams teh win! My parents have property at Bulahdelah, so I could actually sleep there or something lolz. But I'll be working over those dates
LogiK
21-12-2005, 04:45 PM
You were going to be working over those dates Dezza. Not anymore.
DrSp3d
21-12-2005, 05:34 PM
sry dude, but tha fact that its so incredibly close to PhatLan... u got no hope...
LogiK
21-12-2005, 07:00 PM
yeah I know. Im lucky im leaving the day after phat to head up there and stay with cousins for a bit :P.
Navillus
22-12-2005, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by LogiK@Dec 20 2005, 04:18 PM
The network is running of a full 48 port gigabit switch. There is comps as I am helping organise them. Who says a LAN has to be perfect ? There a three admins 19, 16, 15 and I am an admin for this lan only.
Its not that far really. Navillus is dedicated to get there :P.
He is catching the train with his pc, monitor, a backpack and his bike, he is riding from gloucester train station rofl.
Gl Navillus.
There should be registration up soon for it.
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yep, ill be there!
though now ive got friends with cars (and my own car now) so i think ill leave the bike at home :P
from what i can see there will be no bottleneck in the lan due to the fact that it will only be on the one switch. it wont be going throungh multiple switches to a master.
anyways, ill see ya'll there B)
LogiK
22-12-2005, 06:15 PM
Dates are 19th, 20th and 21st of January. I know it conflicts with CCGL but sorry I can't get a different date. Entrance is only 10 dollars yes 10 dollars. We can have a max of 35 but no more sorry guys.
PM me if you want to register.
Dezza Bot
22-12-2005, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by LogiK@Dec 21 2005, 04:45 PM
You were going to be working over those dates Dezza. Not anymore.
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Nope, still am working.. I really gotta be there as I'm filing in for ppl on holidays
LogiK
23-12-2005, 09:15 PM
Bring
Up
My
Post
DrSp3d
23-12-2005, 11:57 PM
what ?
Jimmeh
24-12-2005, 12:00 AM
thats what i thought :blink:
Bring Up My Post
====BUMP
Jimmeh
24-12-2005, 09:08 AM
oooooh bump.. why didnt he just say that :\
Beneh
24-12-2005, 02:05 PM
Err its kinda obvious though ^_^
DrSp3d
26-12-2005, 09:33 AM
yeh now he has edited it :P
Mlloyd60
26-12-2005, 02:47 PM
All Gigabit LAN isnt going to be very fast, better off using 10/100.
The reason noone is allowed to use a gig port @ CCGL is because the person connected will kill that entire row of tables. I have had a few chances to use gig @ CCGL and prefer to use 10/100 as it goes much faster.
And YES Gigabit IS SLOWER than 10/100 in certain circumstances. LAN's being one of them.
Navillus
26-12-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Mlloyd60@Dec 26 2005, 03:47 PM
All Gigabit LAN isnt going to be very fast, better off using 10/100.
The reason noone is allowed to use a gig port @ CCGL is because the person connected will kill that entire row of tables. I have had a few chances to use gig @ CCGL and prefer to use 10/100 as it goes much faster.
And YES Gigabit IS SLOWER than 10/100 in certain circumstances. LAN's being one of them.
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ie, my suggestion to have one whole table as gigabit for those people who need / think they need that amount of bandwidth. if all the big windows updates / linux distro sharers and downloaders stay on that table, no large amount of data has to travel onto the rest of the network therefore both speeding up the normal network for everyone else (10 people on the one table transferring data to other tables at 100mbs = full switch). provided that the data stays on the one gbit switch then u dont have the performance issues either with data trying to get onto the rest of the network
edit:
the gbit lan aforementioned however will be using a 40-odd port switch therefore there is none of the bottleneck between switches. so in this case gbit IS FASTER then 10/100 :)
linux_inside v2
27-12-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Navillus@Dec 26 2005, 03:37 PM
ie, my suggestion to have one whole table as gigabit for those people who need / think they need that amount of bandwidth. if all the big windows updates / linux distro sharers* and downloaders stay on that table, no large amount of data has to travel onto the rest of the network therefore both speeding up the normal network for everyone else (10 people on the one table transferring data to other tables at 100mbs = full switch). provided that the data stays on the one gbit switch then u dont have the performance issues either with data trying to get onto the rest of the network
edit:
the gbit lan aforementioned however will be using a 40-odd port switch therefore there is none of the bottleneck between switches. so in this case gbit IS FASTER then 10/100* :)
94697
depends on the quality of the switch, what program you are using to share teh linux distros, packet sizes and the speed of everyones HDD's
one other thing wrong with GBit is that the overheads required for transmission are also bigger, you wanna make sure your cables are up to scratch and that the hdd is fast enough to keep up.
this is why 10/100 is usually faster. the packet sizes are smaller, there is little overhead and the hdd can keep up.
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